[quote=“BHS65”]roof-lover, are you serious?
About 3 weeks ago the contractor met with my adjuster and said that the $5400 estimate was fine for my 1980 sq. foot roof.
I have spoken with several other neighbors with damage and their estimates were all within $200 to $300 of mine (over or under).
The contractor did a neighbors roof in early sept. and it looked good(as far as I could see). I checked with BBB and a reference. After we met and agreed on contract, he said they’d start the next day(sept 18th). I asked him to see the proof of insurance, workers comp, and registration with building dept. It was then I found out he wasn’t registered with the city. It took him a week to get around to getting his bond to city and getting registered.(He kept saying city was causing delay, but it is city policy that you are approved when application, fee, and bond are submitted).
Initially he told me he had his own crews. A crew showed up last wed., Oct. 1st ( nearly 2 weeks after they were supposed to),and they were subs (Whites). They got on my roof long enough to bend my gutter with their ladder, then said they weren’t getting paid enough, then called contractor to argue about price, then they quit and left. Contractor then got a Mexican crew that showed up later last wed and started on second story roof. They finished on thurs while I was at work. Friday I came home and found shoddy drip edge (a 6 inch piece inserted between 2 larger pieces on front dormer being the most glaring),sill flashing was nailed through with roofing nails, and they forgot to replace shed roof on attached fireplace. Contractor came over and agreed with drip edge. he called crew back to replace 8 10Ft. pieces of drip edge and to reshingle fireplace. He said nailing through the metal sill flashing is acceptable, and when I asked him about the ice/water guard underlayment he said it’s not needed in our area.
Prior to job I had also told him about the importance of getting all of the nails out our yard ( 2 kids under 6). When I spoke with him on thurs evening (I was at work), he assured me that they spent an hour going over yard with magnet. However, Friday morning I found about 25 or 30 nails in yard. I asked him to bring back magnet and I used magnet and found another 50 or so. I know you can’t get them all, but I’m pretty sure he wasn’t telling the truth about spending an hour on thursday.
Underpaid Contractor? The first sub crew that quit said he was paying them $1300 for job.I’m sure he didn’t pay the Mexican crew any more. My Ins estimate for material was about $2000, so that means he grossed $2100 for acting as a “General Contractor” on what should have been a one day job.
I’ve been a professional firefighter for 20 years, and my personal motto has always been do it right the first time, and to see things through to their correct completion.
I spoke with the municipal building inspector and my insurance adjuster today. They both agreed that the code requires iceguard underlayment 24 inches past where the roof meets the interior wall. This is spelled out in the 2006 Ohio code.
I will now have to meet with the contractor and try to resolve this problem. I would guess that the fix is going to cost him more that the $300 or so he saved by cutting corners.
All I wanted was for a good roof at a fair price. I would have been willing to pay more than my insurance estimate if needed. I don’t want roof leaks, rotting, drywall damage, or mold.
Is this too much to ask for?[/quote]
Your story and mine sound SO much alike! (Your guys name wasnt Phil, was it? LOL)
Even the nail issue.
Going through pure hell right now trying to straighten it out before the nasty weather hits (I live in SW PA)
The “contractor” who did mine kept me strung along for 4 weeks doing a roof and soffit/facia on my 20 square house…I pointed out things that seemed wrong to me all along and it was always “we’ll get that at the end”…well, “at the end” when he was packed and looking for money, none of it was done…he talked me into a holdback agreement, saying that he would be back in a week or two at most and I could pay the last remaining bit then…He took more money from me and left…never heard from him. Then he found out I was able to stop mayment on the check I had given him after he held it for over 3 weeks…THEN he calls and is all apologetic and such. Excuse after excuse as to why I hadnet heard from him for almost a month…Well, at this point we dont trust him to fix ANY of it right…he had chance after chance.
I dont know how this assclown sleeps at night.
So, my advice : BE THERE when he fixes what he has to fix…INSIST on what the contract says…if it called for iceguard, there better be iceguard. Be 1000% happy with the job before you pay the last money and he is GONE. AT least while you owe money you have some leverage.
Turns out that the money I was able to hold back just barely will pay to fix the leaks and major mechanical issues he left behind (ridge vents coming off the house)…it will cost thousands more to fix all the aesthetic issues he left behind.
And some may say “just live with the aesthetic issue…its no big deal”…well, do you buy a brand new car and accept it with dents and scratches all over it? In the same way, I dont accept that a brand new soffit/facia job should have sags and exposed wood and all sorts of other defects…I shouldnt have to pay for sloppy workmanship, nor should you.
I have found that very FEW roofers/contractors will get involved with this sort of thing…and the ones that do? Very expensive.
Save yourself grief. If you have to, pay to have another respected roofer in your area (if you can find one tha tyou trust) come in and look at the job that was done.
Some here may find that rude but hey…its YOUR money. You have to protect yourself.
I was careful but apparantly not careful enough and I will be out at least $10k due to that…unless I want to try and sue which means lawyers and all that.
PM me if you want to comapre notes further.